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Carol in GA

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Since: Mar 09, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>mail (more info?)

I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes." and asks "OK or Cancel" What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Richard Urban

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

When you delete messages the space isn't necessarily freed up. By compacting the store occasionally, every 100 shutdowns by default, it keeps the store smaller than it otherwise would be. This is a good thing BTW. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Carol in GA" wrote in message > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few > minutes." > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Justin

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message > "Justin" wrote in message > >> What are the advantages of that program? >> >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you are >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with 7,000+ >> emails it didn't take very long. > > > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it must be > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems with > duplicate messages. Dups - That's odd. No problems here. I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 and exit. Then put it back. >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Ellen

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get compacted? "Justin" wrote: > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message > > > "Justin" wrote in message > > > >> What are the advantages of that program? > >> > >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you are > >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with 7,000+ > >> emails it didn't take very long. > > > > > > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it must be > > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems with > > duplicate messages. > > Dups - That's odd. No problems here. > > I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 and > exit. Then put it back. > > >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Steve Cochran

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In WinMail, unlike OE, the messages don't get compacted, only the database does. So they won't be affected. See also www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm steve "Ellen" wrote in message > What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get > compacted? > > "Justin" wrote: > >> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message >> >> > "Justin" wrote in message >> > >> >> What are the advantages of that program? >> >> >> >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you >> >> are >> >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with 7,000+ >> >> emails it didn't take very long. >> > >> > >> > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it must >> > be >> > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems with >> > duplicate messages. >> >> Dups - That's odd. No problems here. >> >> I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 and >> exit. Then put it back. >> >> >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

So what I get from this is that it is a good thing to compact the message store? I have just been saying no, because I wasn't sure what it was. Thanks. "Steve Cochran" wrote: > In WinMail, unlike OE, the messages don't get compacted, only the database > does. So they won't be affected. > > See also www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm > > steve > > "Ellen" wrote in message > > > What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get > > compacted? > > > > "Justin" wrote: > > > >> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message > >> > >> > "Justin" wrote in message > >> > > >> >> What are the advantages of that program? > >> >> > >> >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you > >> >> are > >> >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with 7,000+ > >> >> emails it didn't take very long. > >> > > >> > > >> > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it must > >> > be > >> > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems with > >> > duplicate messages. > >> > >> Dups - That's odd. No problems here. > >> > >> I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 and > >> exit. Then put it back. > >> > >> > >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Justin

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Only if you delete a lot of email. For the average user, doing this every other month can help keep your WM app running at full speed. "TK" wrote in message > > So what I get from this is that it is a good thing to compact the message > store? I have just been saying no, because I wasn't sure what it was. > Thanks. > "Steve Cochran" wrote: > >> In WinMail, unlike OE, the messages don't get compacted, only the >> database >> does. So they won't be affected. >> >> See also www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm >> >> steve >> >> "Ellen" wrote in message >> >> > What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get >> > compacted? >> > >> > "Justin" wrote: >> > >> >> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in >> >> message >> >> >> >> > "Justin" wrote in message >> >> > >> >> >> What are the advantages of that program? >> >> >> >> >> >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you >> >> >> are >> >> >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with >> >> >> 7,000+ >> >> >> emails it didn't take very long. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it >> >> > must >> >> > be >> >> > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems >> >> > with >> >> > duplicate messages. >> >> >> >> Dups - That's odd. No problems here. >> >> >> >> I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 >> >> and >> >> exit. Then put it back. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Steve Cochran

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Yes. It removes old entries in the database and cleans it up. steve "TK" wrote in message > > So what I get from this is that it is a good thing to compact the message > store? I have just been saying no, because I wasn't sure what it was. > Thanks. > "Steve Cochran" wrote: > >> In WinMail, unlike OE, the messages don't get compacted, only the >> database >> does. So they won't be affected. >> >> See also www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm >> >> steve >> >> "Ellen" wrote in message >> >> > What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get >> > compacted? >> > >> > "Justin" wrote: >> > >> >> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in >> >> message >> >> >> >> > "Justin" wrote in message >> >> > >> >> >> What are the advantages of that program? >> >> >> >> >> >> You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you >> >> >> are >> >> >> better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with >> >> >> 7,000+ >> >> >> emails it didn't take very long. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it >> >> > must >> >> > be >> >> > done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems >> >> > with >> >> > duplicate messages. >> >> >> >> Dups - That's odd. No problems here. >> >> >> >> I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 >> >> and >> >> exit. Then put it back. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

sirsally

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: RE: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Carol in GA" wrote: > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes." > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Captain Dan

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: RE: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I'm trying to post this as a new question ... but that button is not responding to enable me to do so ... what a pain!! Anyway ... is there any way this notification can be turned off? I keep getting it and it's very annoying... "Carol in GA" wrote: > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes." > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Richard Urban

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

If you want the message store to be compacted occasionally (highly desirable) you will need to see this message to allow you to choose to do so. You can change the frequency of the compacts. On a fresh install of Vista - not an upgrade from Windows XP - the default is once for every 100 times you exit Windows Mail. I would NOT suggest you go any higher that this setting. I have it set to compact every 25 exits. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Captain Dan" wrote in message > I'm trying to post this as a new question ... but that button is not > responding to enable me to do so ... what a pain!! Anyway ... is there any > way this notification can be turned off? I keep getting it and it's very > annoying... > > "Carol in GA" wrote: > >> I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep >> getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: >> >> "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few >> minutes." >> and asks "OK or Cancel" >> >> What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Jim Parker

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: RE: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Carol in GA" wrote: > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes." > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

Jim Parker

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

where do they go? I have not been able to locate e mails like I could with OUTLOOK ??THANKS JIM "Richard Urban" wrote: > When you delete messages the space isn't necessarily freed up. By compacting > the store occasionally, every 100 shutdowns by default, it keeps the store > smaller than it otherwise would be. This is a good thing BTW. > > -- > > > Regards, > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > Quote from George Ankner: > If you knew as much as you think you know, > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! > > > > "Carol in GA" wrote in message > > > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few > > minutes." > > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > > > What is this? > > >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

H.Craven

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: Re: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I agree very much -- Chaz "Richard Urban" wrote: > When you delete messages the space isn't necessarily freed up. By compacting > the store occasionally, every 100 shutdowns by default, it keeps the store > smaller than it otherwise would be. This is a good thing BTW. > > -- > > > Regards, > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > Quote from George Ankner: > If you knew as much as you think you know, > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! > > > > "Carol in GA" wrote in message > > > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few > > minutes." > > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > > > What is this? > > >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

U2ooner

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: RE: "Windows Mail can compact the message store" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

My question is the same as Carol in GA. How do you get rid of the message? "Jim Parker" wrote: > > > "Carol in GA" wrote: > > > I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep > > getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says: > > > > "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes." > > and asks "OK or Cancel" > > > > What is this? >> Stay informed about: ""Windows Mail can compact the message store""

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