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tomoedinburgh

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:18 pm
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Everytime I start, Windows Defender says

Failed to intialize 0x800106ba
A problem caused this program's service to
stop. To start service, restart or search
help and suppot to start it mannually

What is this 0x800106ba? Is it important?Shocked

Restart does not solve this.
Could anyone tell me how to fix it?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:27 pm
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Hi SIW2

thank you, I remember you. You helped me previously.
Well, i visited the site and tried all three there.
I could not uninstall the defender. it was not in the "program"
but I installed successfully the latest version of WD from the site.
However, this did not solve the problem.

I typed in the patches in the option three. Some went in
some came back saying "problem 0x800106..."

Still, each time I restart, WD says "cannot initialize 0x800"

The voice of HAL says "Sorry, I cannnot do it"....
I dont know what more I can do with this...


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:17 pm
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Hi,

Always worth checking for malware, you may like to download and scan
with the free

'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org).

Suggest you try a system restore to a point before Defender stopped
working

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76905-system-restore-how.html

If you are still having problems, run a system file check

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66978-system-files-sfc-command.html

and if necessary, do a repair install ( you need the proper Microsoft
installation dvd to do this )

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

If you could also add your system specs. that would be useful - go to
User CP at the top left of this page to add them.

Hope it helps

SIW2


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:52 pm
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0x800106ba RPC_S_Server_Unavailable
This is a BITS or COM related issue.

Have you diabled any services ?
Is KB939159 installed ?
Is Vista SP1 installed ?
What is the installed security software [antivirus/security suite/etc] ?

BTW, you can NOT uninstall WD in Vista, you can only disable the Service
that it's dependent upon thereby stopping WD from functioning.


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tomoedinburgh wrote:

> Hi SIW2
>
> thank you, I remember you. You helped me previously.
> Well, i visited the site and tried all three there.
> I could not uninstall the defender. it was not in the "program"
> but I installed successfully the latest version of WD from the site.
> However, this did not solve the problem.
>
> I typed in the patches in the option three. Some went in
> some came back saying "problem 0x800106..."
>
> Still, each time I restart, WD says "cannot initialize 0x800"
>
> The voice of HAL says "Sorry, I cannnot do it"....
> I dont know what more I can do with this...
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 pm
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Hi

many thanks for the suggestions

I deleted some files which I believed were just duplicates and I am
afraind
I did something wrong there.. just a guess but they coincide.

No, I have not took in SVP1. I read reviews and pretty much convinced
that it is more trouble than it is worth. But do you think downloading
the service pack solve this problem?

Could you possibly tell me how serious having this 0x800106
malfunctioning?
Is it in anyway putting my PC in danger? Or is it just a nuisance?

Let me get back to later with this upfate K something...


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:23 pm
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Hi tomoedinburgh,

Defender is a pretty important thing to have running - did you try a
system restore to a point before the problem ?

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76905-system-restore-how.html

It is also also a good idea to have SP1 installed.

Hope this helps

SIW2


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:28 am
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Hi again

I regulary delete Shadow Copy and do registory Cleaning. Can I still
restore
the system to a few weeks back?

I also worry if I do this system restore I would lose change I made and
softwares I downloaded since. How does the system restore affect PC?


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:50 am
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Hi tomo...,

You probably don't have restore points going back weeks.

If you have the proper MS installation dvd , you do a repair install
which will replace replace all the Vista files , but should not affect
your data and programs.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

If you have some ghastly "recovery" disc from the manufacturer - it
probably only allows you to put the system back to how it was when you
got your machine. You would need to transfer all your stuff to an
external hd first and then back after and reinstall all your programs.

It would help if you Click User CP at the top left of this page and
input your system specs.

Hope it helps

SIW2


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:58 pm
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> If you have some ghastly "recovery" disc from the manufacturer - it
> probably only allows you to put the system back to how it was when you
> got your machine.

Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the
difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is
meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies
the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore
is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as
new" condition.

When using either process, it is best to read the documentation
to see what will actually be done. Misuse of terms is rampant
because nobody cares about language anymore.

> You would need to transfer all your stuff to an
> external hd first and then back after and reinstall all your programs.

Yes, a real PITA.

> It would help if you Click User CP at the top left of this page and
> input your system specs.
>
> Hope it helps

I can't see what you refer to. I click and I click anyway and nothing
seems to happen.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:58 pm
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:13 -0400, "FromTheRafters"
wrote:

>Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the
>difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is
>meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies
>the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore
>is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as
>new" condition.

Sorry, but that's the reverse of normal usage in both XP and Vista.

Recovery is reserved for talking about using a "recovery disc" to
return a computer to out-of-the-box - or "as new" - condition.

Restore is reserved for talking about using the System Restore utility
to return the system to a state previous to an unfortunate event,
without going all the way back to "as new" condition.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:56 pm
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"The Max" wrote in message

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:13 -0400, "FromTheRafters"
> wrote:
>
>>Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the
>>difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is
>>meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies
>>the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore
>>is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as
>>new" condition.
>
> Sorry, but that's the reverse of normal usage in both XP and Vista.
>
> Recovery is reserved for talking about using a "recovery disc" to
> return a computer to out-of-the-box - or "as new" - condition.
>
> Restore is reserved for talking about using the System Restore utility
> to return the system to a state previous to an unfortunate event,
> without going all the way back to "as new" condition.

Yeah, I'm sorry too.

Microsoft didn't actually get it wrong when they named the
restore facility, it does get you back to a previous "as new"
state for the things under its purview. If they called it system
recovery people should expect it to do a lot more than it does.

http://www.restoredisks.com/

Restore is OS independent. Recovery would require some backup
plan or at the very least some knowledge of the OS and user data
that needs the recovering.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:07 pm
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dear mow green

I checked my updates and i dont think I have KB939... the one you
mentioned. What sort of update is this?


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:19 pm
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dear S1W2

About SP1. It says you need 4.5G free space to install.
Does this mean SP1 occupy that amount of HD once installed?
Or you need that to install but the pack does not take up that much?
Do you know how much space SP1 take up?

I read reviews and they say the improvememts are marginal.
They are like, "well, it does not hurt" sort of reception.
Could you tell me how one can beneft from downloading SP1,
apart from having a piece of mind, so to speak?


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:17 pm
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Hi,

This is what Mow was referring to

'An update to prevent a Background Intelligent Transfer Service
(BITS) crash on a Windows Vista-based computer'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939159)

Sp1 doesn't take up 4.5 gb and here is some idea of what it's for

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_sp1.asp

Hope that helps

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:22 pm
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tomoedinburgh wrote:
> dear mow green
>
> I checked my updates and i dont think I have KB939... the one you
> mentioned. What sort of update is this?
>
>
> I regulary delete Shadow Copy and do registory Cleaning.

'Cleaning' the registry is the most likely cause of this issue. If you
used an automated tool, then restore it's backup.
If you did it manually, then you *should* have exported the reg
key/subkey prior to 'cleaning' it.

Cleaning the registry only needs to be done to ensure malware is not
loading from it. Otherwise it's gun + shoe = ouch !!!

Did you download the version of KB939159 meant for *your* system ?
There are 2 versions, x86 and x64, linked from the KB article.

I repeat:

What is the installed security software [antivirus/security suite/etc] ?


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