Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

Hi, dpwilli.

Mac's suggestions are right on!

We often hear complaints that Vista is slow at first, but then gets better
after a few days, as the Indexing Service completes the initial Index. To
see if this might be the problem, click Control Panel | Indexing Options and
see if it says "Indexing complete", or that it is "reduced due to user
activity", or similar language. Indexing is SUPPOSED to work in the
background and be almost unnoticed - and it does, AFTER it finishes building
the initial Index. Of course, it has to get to work again if we add a lot
of new content to the hard drive, such as a lot of new emails or newsgroup
messages, or importing a lot of files, especially text files, that need to
be indexed.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"dpwilli" wrote in message

> My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work which
> came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
> fine
> with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after startup,
> vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that time
> everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
> the
> computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
> immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
> problem.
>
> System Specs:
> Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
> Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
> 1GB RAM
> 80 GB HD
> Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
>
> Steps taken:
> My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3 of
> it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in it,
> so I
> removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of RAM.
>
> RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
>
> I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
> detecting any major problems and there were none.
>
> Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup applications
> as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still no
> improvement.
>
> I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
> improvement.
>
> Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
> processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task Manager
> tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it could
> be
> that it's just not getting updated.
>
> I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But if
> anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or startup
> apps
> that could be causing this, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dpwilli
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

Look in task manager to see which processes are consuming cpu during this
period, and add columns for disk activity to see which processes are
thrashing the drives. Then you will be one step closer to understanding what
is going on...

"dpwilli" wrote in message

> My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work which
> came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
> fine
> with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after startup,
> vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that time
> everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
> the
> computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
> immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
> problem.
>
> System Specs:
> Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
> Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
> 1GB RAM
> 80 GB HD
> Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
>
> Steps taken:
> My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3 of
> it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in it,
> so I
> removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of RAM.
>
> RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
>
> I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
> detecting any major problems and there were none.
>
> Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup applications
> as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still no
> improvement.
>
> I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
> improvement.
>
> Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
> processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task Manager
> tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it could
> be
> that it's just not getting updated.
>
> I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But if
> anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or startup
> apps
> that could be causing this, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dpwilli
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

Mac,
Thanks for the suggestion. I have looked at CPU utilization, but the task
manager isn't updating during this time so all running processes are showing
reasonable (< 10 - 20 % utilization). I haven't tried the disk activity
column though. I'll give that a try and post the results. Thanks for the
suggestion, and keep 'em coming.

dpwill

"Mac" wrote:

> Look in task manager to see which processes are consuming cpu during this
> period, and add columns for disk activity to see which processes are
> thrashing the drives. Then you will be one step closer to understanding what
> is going on...
>
> "dpwilli" wrote in message
>
> > My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work which
> > came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
> > fine
> > with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after startup,
> > vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that time
> > everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
> > the
> > computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
> > immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
> > problem.
> >
> > System Specs:
> > Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
> > Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
> > 1GB RAM
> > 80 GB HD
> > Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
> >
> > Steps taken:
> > My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3 of
> > it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in it,
> > so I
> > removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of RAM.
> >
> > RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
> >
> > I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
> > detecting any major problems and there were none.
> >
> > Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup applications
> > as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still no
> > improvement.
> >
> > I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
> > improvement.
> >
> > Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
> > processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task Manager
> > tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it could
> > be
> > that it's just not getting updated.
> >
> > I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But if
> > anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or startup
> > apps
> > that could be causing this, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > dpwilli
>
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

It should update during that time! Check in Event Viewer to see if there is
anything being recorded during that period... Start/Orb, type Event, click
on Event Viewer.

Also in task manager sort the rows by clicking on the top of the cpu or disk
columns to see the highest activity...

"dpwilli" wrote in message

> Mac,
> Thanks for the suggestion. I have looked at CPU utilization, but the task
> manager isn't updating during this time so all running processes are
> showing
> reasonable (< 10 - 20 % utilization). I haven't tried the disk activity
> column though. I'll give that a try and post the results. Thanks for the
> suggestion, and keep 'em coming.
>
> dpwill
>
> "Mac" wrote:
>
>> Look in task manager to see which processes are consuming cpu during this
>> period, and add columns for disk activity to see which processes are
>> thrashing the drives. Then you will be one step closer to understanding
>> what
>> is going on...
>>
>> "dpwilli" wrote in message
>>
>> > My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work
>> > which
>> > came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
>> > fine
>> > with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after
>> > startup,
>> > vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that
>> > time
>> > everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
>> > the
>> > computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
>> > immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > System Specs:
>> > Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
>> > Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
>> > 1GB RAM
>> > 80 GB HD
>> > Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
>> >
>> > Steps taken:
>> > My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3
>> > of
>> > it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in
>> > it,
>> > so I
>> > removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of
>> > RAM.
>> >
>> > RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
>> >
>> > I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
>> > detecting any major problems and there were none.
>> >
>> > Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup
>> > applications
>> > as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still
>> > no
>> > improvement.
>> >
>> > I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
>> > improvement.
>> >
>> > Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
>> > processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task
>> > Manager
>> > tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it
>> > could
>> > be
>> > that it's just not getting updated.
>> >
>> > I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But
>> > if
>> > anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or
>> > startup
>> > apps
>> > that could be causing this, please let me know.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > dpwilli
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

If none of the suggestions you've received pan out check your security
programs. Some antivirus and antispyware programs do a scan on startup.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"dpwilli" wrote in message

> My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work which
> came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
> fine
> with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after startup,
> vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that time
> everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
> the
> computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
> immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
> problem.
>
> System Specs:
> Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
> Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
> 1GB RAM
> 80 GB HD
> Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
>
> Steps taken:
> My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3 of
> it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in it,
> so I
> removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of RAM.
>
> RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
>
> I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
> detecting any major problems and there were none.
>
> Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup applications
> as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still no
> improvement.
>
> I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
> improvement.
>
> Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
> processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task Manager
> tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it could
> be
> that it's just not getting updated.
>
> I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But if
> anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or startup
> apps
> that could be causing this, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dpwilli
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

Ok, so what is considered normal for Disk I/O Reads & writes?

I've got my anti-virus software doing 17,000,000 I/O Read Bytes. Windows
Explorer is doing 3,000,000 read bytes, but has 17,000,000 'I/O Other Bytes'.
Do any of those seem excessive? CPU Utilization remains normal and physical
memory is steady around 26%. Still having the same issue. 10 minutes or so
nothing will run, then all of a sudden everything is fine. No issues listed
under performance issues.

By the way, this is a 64 bit machine. Any reason that could be causing a
problem?

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, dpwilli.
>
> Mac's suggestions are right on!
>
> We often hear complaints that Vista is slow at first, but then gets better
> after a few days, as the Indexing Service completes the initial Index. To
> see if this might be the problem, click Control Panel | Indexing Options and
> see if it says "Indexing complete", or that it is "reduced due to user
> activity", or similar language. Indexing is SUPPOSED to work in the
> background and be almost unnoticed - and it does, AFTER it finishes building
> the initial Index. Of course, it has to get to work again if we add a lot
> of new content to the hard drive, such as a lot of new emails or newsgroup
> messages, or importing a lot of files, especially text files, that need to
> be indexed.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "dpwilli" wrote in message
>
> > My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work which
> > came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
> > fine
> > with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after startup,
> > vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that time
> > everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
> > the
> > computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
> > immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
> > problem.
> >
> > System Specs:
> > Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
> > Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
> > 1GB RAM
> > 80 GB HD
> > Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
> >
> > Steps taken:
> > My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3 of
> > it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in it,
> > so I
> > removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of RAM.
> >
> > RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
> >
> > I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
> > detecting any major problems and there were none.
> >
> > Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup applications
> > as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still no
> > improvement.
> >
> > I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
> > improvement.
> >
> > Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
> > processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task Manager
> > tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it could
> > be
> > that it's just not getting updated.
> >
> > I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But if
> > anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or startup
> > apps
> > that could be causing this, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > dpwilli
>
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

Hi, dpwilli.

> Ok, so what is considered normal for Disk I/O Reads & writes?

I have no idea. :>( I've never had any need to observe or investigate
these stats.

> 10 minutes or so
> nothing will run, then all of a sudden everything is fine.

The first thing that comes to mind is heat. Some piece of hardware inside
the case shrinks when cool and no longer functions properly. After
power-on, it takes 10 minutes for it to come up to operating temperature, or
to expand enough to make or firm up a critical connection. The hard drive
cables would be prime suspects.

Have you discussed this with Acer, or the vendor who sold you the notebook?
Is it too late for a replacement under warranty?

I probably can't help with this problem, dpwilli. Please post back when you
get it figured out and let us know. Good luck!

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"dpwilli" wrote in message

> Ok, so what is considered normal for Disk I/O Reads & writes?
>
> I've got my anti-virus software doing 17,000,000 I/O Read Bytes. Windows
> Explorer is doing 3,000,000 read bytes, but has 17,000,000 'I/O Other
> Bytes'.
> Do any of those seem excessive? CPU Utilization remains normal and
> physical
> memory is steady around 26%. Still having the same issue. 10 minutes or
> so
> nothing will run, then all of a sudden everything is fine. No issues
> listed
> under performance issues.
>
> By the way, this is a 64 bit machine. Any reason that could be causing a
> problem?
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, dpwilli.
>>
>> Mac's suggestions are right on!
>>
>> We often hear complaints that Vista is slow at first, but then gets
>> better
>> after a few days, as the Indexing Service completes the initial Index.
>> To
>> see if this might be the problem, click Control Panel | Indexing Options
>> and
>> see if it says "Indexing complete", or that it is "reduced due to user
>> activity", or similar language. Indexing is SUPPOSED to work in the
>> background and be almost unnoticed - and it does, AFTER it finishes
>> building
>> the initial Index. Of course, it has to get to work again if we add a
>> lot
>> of new content to the hard drive, such as a lot of new emails or
>> newsgroup
>> messages, or importing a lot of files, especially text files, that need
>> to
>> be indexed.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
>>
>> "dpwilli" wrote in message
>>
>> > My wife recently purchased an Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook for her work
>> > which
>> > came preinstalled with Vista Home Premium. At first everything seemed
>> > fine
>> > with it, then after a few weeks she started noticing that after
>> > startup,
>> > vista was virtually unresponsive for about 10-15 minutes. After that
>> > time
>> > everything ran fine. There has been only one application installed on
>> > the
>> > computer, but is not running at system startup and is not launched
>> > immediately after startup, so I don't think it could be causing the
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > System Specs:
>> > Acer Aspire 5100 Notebook
>> > Preinstalled Vista Home Priemium
>> > 1GB RAM
>> > 80 GB HD
>> > Radeon ATI Xpress 1100 Graphics Card
>> >
>> > Steps taken:
>> > My first thought was that it needed more RAM. Of the original gig, 1/3
>> > of
>> > it was being reserved for video memory. It had two 512mb sodimms in
>> > it,
>> > so I
>> > removed one and added an additional gig, bringing me to 1.5 gigs of
>> > RAM.
>> >
>> > RESULT: Did not notice any significant improvement as a aresult.
>> >
>> > I then ran many of the Vista performance utilities to see if the OS was
>> > detecting any major problems and there were none.
>> >
>> > Next, I ran msconfig and disabled the majority of the startup
>> > applications
>> > as well as a handful of services which I knew were not needed. Still
>> > no
>> > improvement.
>> >
>> > I disabled Aero and turned off all of the windows visual effects. No
>> > improvement.
>> >
>> > Task manager doesn't show any processes utilizing excesive amounts of
>> > processor time or memory. Although, I have noticed that the Task
>> > Manager
>> > tends to freeze up durning this initial post-boot lag time. So it
>> > could
>> > be
>> > that it's just not getting updated.
>> >
>> > I'm going to try and start it in safe mode to see if that helps. But
>> > if
>> > anyone has any suggestions, or knows of any specific services or
>> > startup
>> > apps
>> > that could be causing this, please let me know.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > dpwilli
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

Hi.

i have the same problem.

My machine
Ram 4 gb
Video Nvidia geforce 8800 GTx
Cpu intel Core2 Quad 2.66
Board MSI P6n Sli Platinun

in vista ultima 32 bit the boot is perfect time, but when i upgrade to 64
bit, is a very slow boot ( about 7 minutes), i have a teory about the drivers
of the board.

but also is slow when i run vista 64, is dirvers problem ?
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

fer wrote:
> Hi.
>
> i have the same problem.
>
> My machine
> Ram 4 gb
> Video Nvidia geforce 8800 GTx
> Cpu intel Core2 Quad 2.66
> Board MSI P6n Sli Platinun
>
> in vista ultima 32 bit the boot is perfect time, but when i upgrade to 64
> bit, is a very slow boot ( about 7 minutes), i have a teory about the drivers
> of the board.
>
> but also is slow when i run vista 64, is dirvers problem ?
>
>
>
>
>


It very well could be the drivers for the board, and I doubt there's
much you can do except look on the manufacturer's website for updates.
Of course you can't do that without an OS and maybe you can't install
the drivers with the OS in place without changing some BIOS setting so
see if you can find anything related to BIOS settings when you visit. Of
course video drivers can affect other things too but it sounds like you
have have tried some things already.
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

I have a acer 5103.

Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
2GB RAM
ATI Radeon X1300

I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
everything works as it should, just like before. I've been trying
everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
of windows. Things I've done:

Uninstalled unnecessary programs
Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)
Cleaned the registry
Defraged the registry
Got rid of all but necessary startup programs (about 9 running now)
Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data
Cleared the pagefile
Deleted hibernation file

after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.
Nothing helped. I know it's a problem with vista because I can run any
old linux distribution and it runs like a dream. I really don't want to
reinstall windows, for one, acer is so kind and don't even give you the
windows CD with the notebook, just a lame "factory setting backup
CD/DVD" you can make yourself but I've got windows and all my programs
set up the way I want and it has taken me a year to have it this. The
only thing I haven't done is gone and reinstall all the drivers, because
usually this does more harm than good.
So I hope someone could help me.


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 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
wrote:

>
> I have a acer 5103.
>
> Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
> 2GB RAM
> ATI Radeon X1300
>
> I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
> had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
> after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
> minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
> the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
> the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
> took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
> everything works as it should, just like before.


Ten to 15 minutes is certainly on the long side. On the other hand, if
everything else is OK, most of us power on and boot once a day or less
frequently, and even a time like that doesn't hurt very much.

I press the power button and go get my coffee. When I come back it's
finished booting. I don't know how long it took and I don't care.


> I've been trying
> everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
> only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
> of windows.


That is seldom a solution to such a problem, and even if it is, you
don't find out what was wrong. That means that you will probably
repeat the behavior that caused it and soon find yourself back in the
same situation.


> Things I've done:
>
> Uninstalled unnecessary programs


What's installed but not running has no effect on performance, boot
time or anything else. The only bad thing about having an unnecessary
program installed is that it wastes a little disk space (and that's
almost certainly unrelated to your problem).


> Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)


Since you find performance after booting OK, it's highly unlikely that
this had any effect on the issue.


> Cleaned the registry


A very poor thing to do, problems or not. Registry cleaning programs
are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.



> Defraged the registry


No effect on the issue. Defragging the registry very seldom has any
effect on performance.


> Got rid of all but necessary startup programs


Good, but...


> (about 9 running now)


....their number (despite how often you see people telling you about
it) is irrelevant. What could very likely be a factor here is *which*
programs are starting automatically. Which are they?


> Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data


Both good to do, but highly unlikely to be a factor in this issue.


> Cleared the pagefile


Completely unnecessary.


> Deleted hibernation file


Again, unrelated to your problem.


> after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.


Highly unlikely to be a factor.

You don't mention anything about which anti-virus and anti-spyware
programs you run and whether they are kept up to date. This could very
likely be a factor.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
wrote:

>I really don't want to
>reinstall windows, for one, acer is so kind and don't even give you the
>windows CD with the notebook, just a lame "factory setting backup
>CD/DVD" you can make yourself but I've got windows and all my programs
>set up the way I want and it has taken me a year to have it this.

WHAT? All that work and you don't have a backup of a working copy?

That can't be laid in Acer's lap.
 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup. 

That can be very long in some occasions, I don't want to wait 15 minutes in
a 50 minutes lesson for my laptop to boot...

Now it does it in about a minute and that's fine.


Process Monitor and Performance Tools are two good tools to analyze the boot
(Like BootVis was there for XP), the second option also provides a forced
boot preparation method.

Event logs can also provide good information on what programs are delaying
you, I guess just one of your programs or services is failing in one or
another way.


Good luck and have fun.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have a acer 5103.
>>
>> Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
>> 2GB RAM
>> ATI Radeon X1300
>>
>> I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
>> had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
>> after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
>> minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
>> the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
>> the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
>> took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
>> everything works as it should, just like before.
>
>
> Ten to 15 minutes is certainly on the long side. On the other hand, if
> everything else is OK, most of us power on and boot once a day or less
> frequently, and even a time like that doesn't hurt very much.
>
> I press the power button and go get my coffee. When I come back it's
> finished booting. I don't know how long it took and I don't care.
>
>
>> I've been trying
>> everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
>> only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
>> of windows.
>
>
> That is seldom a solution to such a problem, and even if it is, you
> don't find out what was wrong. That means that you will probably
> repeat the behavior that caused it and soon find yourself back in the
> same situation.
>
>
>> Things I've done:
>>
>> Uninstalled unnecessary programs
>
>
> What's installed but not running has no effect on performance, boot
> time or anything else. The only bad thing about having an unnecessary
> program installed is that it wastes a little disk space (and that's
> almost certainly unrelated to your problem).
>
>
>> Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)
>
>
> Since you find performance after booting OK, it's highly unlikely that
> this had any effect on the issue.
>
>
>> Cleaned the registry
>
>
> A very poor thing to do, problems or not. Registry cleaning programs
> are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
> dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
> cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
> cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
> entries doesn't really hurt you.
>
> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
> it may have.
>
>
>
>> Defraged the registry
>
>
> No effect on the issue. Defragging the registry very seldom has any
> effect on performance.
>
>
>> Got rid of all but necessary startup programs
>
>
> Good, but...
>
>
>> (about 9 running now)
>
>
> ...their number (despite how often you see people telling you about
> it) is irrelevant. What could very likely be a factor here is *which*
> programs are starting automatically. Which are they?
>
>
>> Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data
>
>
> Both good to do, but highly unlikely to be a factor in this issue.
>
>
>> Cleared the pagefile
>
>
> Completely unnecessary.
>
>
>> Deleted hibernation file
>
>
> Again, unrelated to your problem.
>
>
>> after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.
>
>
> Highly unlikely to be a factor.
>
> You don't mention anything about which anti-virus and anti-spyware
> programs you run and whether they are kept up to date. This could very
> likely be a factor.
>
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> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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 >> Stay informed about: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.