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S Murder

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:57 pm
Post subject: Extension Popup
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Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I'm sure I want to.
Is there any way to disable that dialog?

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Malke

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:20 am
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S Murder wrote:
> Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I'm sure I want to.
> Is there any way to disable that dialog?

What you want to do is enable seeing the hidden file extensions. I
really don't know why, but hiding known file extensions has always been
the default on Microsoft operating systems. The file extension, if you
don't know, is the three letters in a file name after the "dot". The
extension tells Windows what program is associated with that type of file.

Once you enable seeing the hidden extensions (which is better for safety
anyway), you'll be able to change the name - and not the extension -
easily and not get the prompt because your cursor will be in the right
place to just change the name and not the extension. Enable seeing
hidden extensions from Folder Options in Control Panel.


Malke
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S Murder

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:18 am
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I already have the "view known extensions" option enabled. I want to now how
I can edit the extension without Windows butting in.
For example, when creating a new txt file, I can't erase .txt and retype
..java without getting a prompt. How can I stop this?

"Malke" wrote:

> S Murder wrote:
> > Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I'm sure I want to.
> > Is there any way to disable that dialog?
>
> What you want to do is enable seeing the hidden file extensions. I
> really don't know why, but hiding known file extensions has always been
> the default on Microsoft operating systems. The file extension, if you
> don't know, is the three letters in a file name after the "dot". The
> extension tells Windows what program is associated with that type of file.
>
> Once you enable seeing the hidden extensions (which is better for safety
> anyway), you'll be able to change the name - and not the extension -
> easily and not get the prompt because your cursor will be in the right
> place to just change the name and not the extension. Enable seeing
> hidden extensions from Folder Options in Control Panel.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
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R. C. White, MVP

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:37 am
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Hi, S Murder.

I agree with Malke that the default (Hide extensions) is a dumb thing for
Microsoft to do!

The extension is usually - but not always - 3 characters. For example,
..mpeg and .jpeg are often used, in addition to the .mpg and .jpg that were
required back before LFN (Long File Names) were allowed about a dozen years
ago.

Nowadays, we must be sure that we are really looking at the extension,
especially when extensions are hidden. A popular trick for viruses and
malware is to add a malicious extension after one or more legitimate ones.
For example, you might have a file named Murder.txt. A malware program
might add a .vbs extension, making it Murder.txt.vbs. A file cannot have
more than one extension. Only the characters after the FINAL dot are the
actual extension; the dots and characters before the final dot are a part of
the filename, not the extension. So, you might click on what appears to be
Murder.txt, but the hidden .vbs extension executes the malware's payload.
Gotcha! :>(

You should also know that many programs, including many Microsoft programs,
automatically add extensions when you save files from them. For example, if
you load Murder.txt into Microsoft Word, then Save it, the filename will
become Murder.txt.doc. If you've left the default to Hide extensions, you
won't see the .doc. This might not cause you any problems at all - but it
might.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc.RemoveThis@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)

"S Murder" wrote in message

> Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I'm sure I want
> to.
> Is there any way to disable that dialog?
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Malke

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:11 pm
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R. C. White, MVP wrote:
> Hi, S Murder.
>
> I agree with Malke that the default (Hide extensions) is a dumb thing
> for Microsoft to do!
>
> The extension is usually - but not always - 3 characters. For example,
> .mpeg and .jpeg are often used, in addition to the .mpg and .jpg that
> were required back before LFN (Long File Names) were allowed about a
> dozen years ago.
>
> Nowadays, we must be sure that we are really looking at the extension,
> especially when extensions are hidden. A popular trick for viruses and
> malware is to add a malicious extension after one or more legitimate
> ones. For example, you might have a file named Murder.txt. A malware
> program might add a .vbs extension, making it Murder.txt.vbs. A file
> cannot have more than one extension. Only the characters after the
> FINAL dot are the actual extension; the dots and characters before the
> final dot are a part of the filename, not the extension. So, you might
> click on what appears to be Murder.txt, but the hidden .vbs extension
> executes the malware's payload. Gotcha! :>(
>
> You should also know that many programs, including many Microsoft
> programs, automatically add extensions when you save files from them.
> For example, if you load Murder.txt into Microsoft Word, then Save it,
> the filename will become Murder.txt.doc. If you've left the default to
> Hide extensions, you won't see the .doc. This might not cause you any
> problems at all - but it might.
>
> RC

Hi, RC. I think what the OP wants (from his second post) is for Windows
not to ask him if he's sure when changing the file extension from say
*.txt to *.jpg. He used this example: "I can't erase .txt and retype
..java without getting a prompt".

To the OP - I don't believe you can get Windows to stop warning you
because changing the *name* of the file extension (*.txt or whatever) to
something completing unrelated (like *.jpg) will not actually change the
real file type. To change the real file type you would need to convert
the file from one type to another. Sometimes that's possible and
sometimes that isn't. It depends on what you are trying to convert from
and to.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:14 pm
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Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files? Woe is me!

"Malke" wrote:

> R. C. White, MVP wrote:
> > Hi, S Murder.
> >
> > I agree with Malke that the default (Hide extensions) is a dumb thing
> > for Microsoft to do!
> >
> > The extension is usually - but not always - 3 characters. For example,
> > .mpeg and .jpeg are often used, in addition to the .mpg and .jpg that
> > were required back before LFN (Long File Names) were allowed about a
> > dozen years ago.
> >
> > Nowadays, we must be sure that we are really looking at the extension,
> > especially when extensions are hidden. A popular trick for viruses and
> > malware is to add a malicious extension after one or more legitimate
> > ones. For example, you might have a file named Murder.txt. A malware
> > program might add a .vbs extension, making it Murder.txt.vbs. A file
> > cannot have more than one extension. Only the characters after the
> > FINAL dot are the actual extension; the dots and characters before the
> > final dot are a part of the filename, not the extension. So, you might
> > click on what appears to be Murder.txt, but the hidden .vbs extension
> > executes the malware's payload. Gotcha! :>(
> >
> > You should also know that many programs, including many Microsoft
> > programs, automatically add extensions when you save files from them.
> > For example, if you load Murder.txt into Microsoft Word, then Save it,
> > the filename will become Murder.txt.doc. If you've left the default to
> > Hide extensions, you won't see the .doc. This might not cause you any
> > problems at all - but it might.
> >
> > RC
>
> Hi, RC. I think what the OP wants (from his second post) is for Windows
> not to ask him if he's sure when changing the file extension from say
> *.txt to *.jpg. He used this example: "I can't erase .txt and retype
> ..java without getting a prompt".
>
> To the OP - I don't believe you can get Windows to stop warning you
> because changing the *name* of the file extension (*.txt or whatever) to
> something completing unrelated (like *.jpg) will not actually change the
> real file type. To change the real file type you would need to convert
> the file from one type to another. Sometimes that's possible and
> sometimes that isn't. It depends on what you are trying to convert from
> and to.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:42 am
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S Murder wrote:
> Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files? Woe is me!

By opening them in each particular program if conversion is possible.
For instance, to convert text to html, you'd copy that text into an html
editor and then save the new file as whatever.html. Examples of html
editors are NVU, Dreamweaver, and Expression (Microsoft's replacement
for FrontPage). You'd create Java files with Sun's Java creator. For
information on that, go to Sun's website.


Malke
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:40 am
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Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags. HTML and Java files ARE text; no
conversion is necessary.

"Malke" wrote:

> S Murder wrote:
> > Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files? Woe is me!
>
> By opening them in each particular program if conversion is possible.
> For instance, to convert text to html, you'd copy that text into an html
> editor and then save the new file as whatever.html. Examples of html
> editors are NVU, Dreamweaver, and Expression (Microsoft's replacement
> for FrontPage). You'd create Java files with Sun's Java creator. For
> information on that, go to Sun's website.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:31 pm
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Had to bump this thread. Since I am searching for the same answer and have been for a bit now.

The MS answers were almost "Robotic".

Hopefully this really shows us what MS is all about.


Id10T


Selvol



SMurde wrote:

Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags.
20-Feb-07

Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags. HTML and Java files ARE text; no
conversion is necessary.

"Malke" wrote:

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:57 AM
SMurde wrote:

Extension Popup
Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I am sure I want to.
Is there any way to disable that dialog?

On Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:20 AM
Malke wrote:

Re: Extension Popup
S Murder wrote:

What you want to do is enable seeing the hidden file extensions. I
really don't know why, but hiding known file extensions has always been
the default on Microsoft operating systems. The file extension, if you
don't know, is the three letters in a file name after the "dot". The
extension tells Windows what program is associated with that type of file.

Once you enable seeing the hidden extensions (which is better for safety
anyway), you'll be able to change the name - and not the extension -
easily and not get the prompt because your cursor will be in the right
place to just change the name and not the extension. Enable seeing
hidden extensions from Folder Options in Control Panel.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

On Monday, February 19, 2007 12:37 PM
R. C. White, MVP wrote:

Hi, S Murder.
Hi, S Murder.

I agree with Malke that the default (Hide extensions) is a dumb thing for
Microsoft to do!

The extension is usually - but not always - 3 characters. For example,
..mpeg and .jpeg are often used, in addition to the .mpg and .jpg that were
required back before LFN (Long File Names) were allowed about a dozen years
ago.

Nowadays, we must be sure that we are really looking at the extension,
especially when extensions are hidden. A popular trick for viruses and
malware is to add a malicious extension after one or more legitimate ones.
For example, you might have a file named Murder.txt. A malware program
might add a .vbs extension, making it Murder.txt.vbs. A file cannot have
more than one extension. Only the characters after the FINAL dot are the
actual extension; the dots and characters before the final dot are a part of
the filename, not the extension. So, you might click on what appears to be
Murder.txt, but the hidden .vbs extension executes the malware's payload.
Gotcha! :>(

You should also know that many programs, including many Microsoft programs,
automatically add extensions when you save files from them. For example, if
you load Murder.txt into Microsoft Word, then Save it, the filename will
become Murder.txt.doc. If you've left the default to Hide extensions, you
won't see the .doc. This might not cause you any problems at all - but it
might.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc.RemoveThis@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)

"S Murder" wrote in message


On Monday, February 19, 2007 1:18 PM
SMurde wrote:

I already have the "view known extensions" option enabled.
I already have the "view known extensions" option enabled. I want to now how
I can edit the extension without Windows butting in.
For example, when creating a new txt file, I can't erase .txt and retype
..java without getting a prompt. How can I stop this?

"Malke" wrote:

On Monday, February 19, 2007 7:11 PM
Malke wrote:

Re: Extension Popup
R. C. White, MVP wrote:

Hi, RC. I think what the OP wants (from his second post) is for Windows
not to ask him if he's sure when changing the file extension from say
*.txt to *.jpg. He used this example: "I can't erase .txt and retype
..java without getting a prompt".

To the OP - I don't believe you can get Windows to stop warning you
because changing the *name* of the file extension (*.txt or whatever) to
something completing unrelated (like *.jpg) will not actually change the
real file type. To change the real file type you would need to convert
the file from one type to another. Sometimes that's possible and
sometimes that isn't. It depends on what you are trying to convert from
and to.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:14 AM
SMurde wrote:

Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files?
Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files? Woe is me!

"Malke" wrote:

On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:42 AM
Malke wrote:

Re: Extension Popup
S Murder wrote:

By opening them in each particular program if conversion is possible.
For instance, to convert text to html, you'd copy that text into an html
editor and then save the new file as whatever.html. Examples of html
editors are NVU, Dreamweaver, and Expression (Microsoft's replacement
for FrontPage). You'd create Java files with Sun's Java creator. For
information on that, go to Sun's website.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:40 PM
SMurde wrote:

Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags.
Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags. HTML and Java files ARE text; no
conversion is necessary.

"Malke" wrote:


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:13 pm
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I think it is you that is a ID10T for answering to an almost 3 yr old post

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<Sel Vol> wrote in message ...
> Had to bump this thread. Since I am searching for the same answer and have been
> for a bit now.
>
> The MS answers were almost "Robotic".
>
> Hopefully this really shows us what MS is all about.
>
>
> Id10T
>
>
> Selvol
>
>
>
> SMurde wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags.
> 20-Feb-07
>
> Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags. HTML and Java files ARE text; no
> conversion is necessary.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> Previous Posts In This Thread:
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:57 AM
> SMurde wrote:
>
> Extension Popup
> Everytime I try to rename an extension Windows asks me if I am sure I want to.
> Is there any way to disable that dialog?
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:20 AM
> Malke wrote:
>
> Re: Extension Popup
> S Murder wrote:
>
> What you want to do is enable seeing the hidden file extensions. I
> really don't know why, but hiding known file extensions has always been
> the default on Microsoft operating systems. The file extension, if you
> don't know, is the three letters in a file name after the "dot". The
> extension tells Windows what program is associated with that type of file.
>
> Once you enable seeing the hidden extensions (which is better for safety
> anyway), you'll be able to change the name - and not the extension -
> easily and not get the prompt because your cursor will be in the right
> place to just change the name and not the extension. Enable seeing
> hidden extensions from Folder Options in Control Panel.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2007 12:37 PM
> R. C. White, MVP wrote:
>
> Hi, S Murder.
> Hi, S Murder.
>
> I agree with Malke that the default (Hide extensions) is a dumb thing for
> Microsoft to do!
>
> The extension is usually - but not always - 3 characters. For example,
> .mpeg and .jpeg are often used, in addition to the .mpg and .jpg that were
> required back before LFN (Long File Names) were allowed about a dozen years
> ago.
>
> Nowadays, we must be sure that we are really looking at the extension,
> especially when extensions are hidden. A popular trick for viruses and
> malware is to add a malicious extension after one or more legitimate ones.
> For example, you might have a file named Murder.txt. A malware program
> might add a .vbs extension, making it Murder.txt.vbs. A file cannot have
> more than one extension. Only the characters after the FINAL dot are the
> actual extension; the dots and characters before the final dot are a part of
> the filename, not the extension. So, you might click on what appears to be
> Murder.txt, but the hidden .vbs extension executes the malware's payload.
> Gotcha! :>(
>
> You should also know that many programs, including many Microsoft programs,
> automatically add extensions when you save files from them. For example, if
> you load Murder.txt into Microsoft Word, then Save it, the filename will
> become Murder.txt.doc. If you've left the default to Hide extensions, you
> won't see the .doc. This might not cause you any problems at all - but it
> might.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc DeleteThis @grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "S Murder" wrote in message
>
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2007 1:18 PM
> SMurde wrote:
>
> I already have the "view known extensions" option enabled.
> I already have the "view known extensions" option enabled. I want to now how
> I can edit the extension without Windows butting in.
> For example, when creating a new txt file, I can't erase .txt and retype
> .java without getting a prompt. How can I stop this?
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2007 7:11 PM
> Malke wrote:
>
> Re: Extension Popup
> R. C. White, MVP wrote:
>
> Hi, RC. I think what the OP wants (from his second post) is for Windows
> not to ask him if he's sure when changing the file extension from say
> *.txt to *.jpg. He used this example: "I can't erase .txt and retype
> .java without getting a prompt".
>
> To the OP - I don't believe you can get Windows to stop warning you
> because changing the *name* of the file extension (*.txt or whatever) to
> something completing unrelated (like *.jpg) will not actually change the
> real file type. To change the real file type you would need to convert
> the file from one type to another. Sometimes that's possible and
> sometimes that isn't. It depends on what you are trying to convert from
> and to.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:14 AM
> SMurde wrote:
>
> Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files?
> Oh gee, well how do I convert text files to java and html files? Woe is me!
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:42 AM
> Malke wrote:
>
> Re: Extension Popup
> S Murder wrote:
>
> By opening them in each particular program if conversion is possible.
> For instance, to convert text to html, you'd copy that text into an html
> editor and then save the new file as whatever.html. Examples of html
> editors are NVU, Dreamweaver, and Expression (Microsoft's replacement
> for FrontPage). You'd create Java files with Sun's Java creator. For
> information on that, go to Sun's website.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:40 PM
> SMurde wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags.
> Sorry, I forgot my <sarcasm> tags. HTML and Java files ARE text; no
> conversion is necessary.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>
> Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
> Java link favorites
> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/54fe40d3-e474-44ef-b0db-53...3f8f689
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